• Contributor
  • Strickland, Boyd
  • Hill, Clark
  • Clark, Medford
  • Hill, Joe
  • Stevenson, Herbert
  • Hill, Pete
  • Hill, Millard
  • Anderson, Ted
  • Allen, Melvin
  • Owen, Jo
  • Strickland, Alice
  • Allen, Emery
  • Henderson, Ronda
  • Dial, Virgil
  • Hill, Rufus
  • Payne, Jarrett
  • Cogdill, Orville
• Format
  • Transcripts
  • Interviews
• Type
  • Text
• Date
  • Date original: 1940
• Extent
  • Dimension: 11' x 8.5"
  • Pages: 46 pages
• Source institution
  • Western Carolina University
• Identifier
  • GSMNP_Cata-Hall_Tape_14_1940

TAPE Noo 14 CONIENI'S SIDE "A" CLARK HILL, MEDFORD CLARK, JOE HILL, and HERBERT .STEVENSON, Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina - singing with guitar "Jesus Paid the Debt" PETE HILL and HERBERT ~TEVENS ON, Sa unook, Hayw~od County, North carolina - guitar and mandolin "Ashes" (?) MILLARD HILL and TED ANDERSON, singing, MEDFORD CLARK and MELVIN ALLEN, Playing, Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" TED ANDERSON and MILLARD HILL, singing, MEDFORD CLARK, playing guitar, Saunook~ Haywood County, North Carolina "Beautiful Brown Eyes" BOYD STRICKLAND, Joe, Madison County, North Carolina, June 1940 "Up on Big Pigeon" BOYD and ALICE STRICKLAND, Joe, Madison County, North Carolina, singing with guitar "Those Lonely Tunes" "Where the Soul Never Dies" BOYD STRICKLAND, Joe, Madison County, North Carolina, June 1940 "Up on Big Pigeon" SIDE 2 MILLARD HILL, HERBERT STEVENSON, BILL MOORE and H<MARD MOORE, Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina, October 1939 - singing with guitar "Farther Along" Page 476-477 478 479.;.480 481-482 483-484 487-488 489-490 491-496 497-498 Joseph Hall Tapes TAPE No. 14 - CONI'ENI'S - contd EMERY ALLEN and RONDA HENDERSON, Fines Creek, Haywood County, North Carolina, October 1939 - singing with guitar "Companions Draw Nigh" VIRGIL DIAL, LaFollette, Tennessee, at Mt. Sterling CCC camp, October 1939 - singing with guitar "Somebody Tall and Handsome" BULL MOUNTAIN RAMBLERS, Rufus Hill (mandolin), Jarrett Payne (guitar), Del Rio, Cocke County, Tennessee, October 1939 "Farther Along" ''What Would You Give in Exchange for Your Soul" (Fragment) CLARK HILL, ORVILlE COGDILL, JOHN <MEN, HERBERT STEVENSON, Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina - singing with guitar "I Don't Want Your Greenback Dollar" WILLIAM BOULDER, CCC Company 1458 Baseball game with Cataloochee CCC Camp PETE HILL and HERBERT STEVENSON, Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina - guitar and mandolin "Ashes" (?) WILL PALMER, Cataloochee, Haywood County, North caroHna A bear hunt with Steve Woody A bear hunt with Turkey George Palmer Mrs. GEORGE PALMER, Cataloochee, Haywood County, North Carolina How to build a turkey pen Turkey hunt by Turkey George Palmer MARY ALICE PALMER, Cataloochee, Haywood County, N 0 rth Carolina Her grandfather and her father BILL BARNES, Hartford, Cocke County, Tennessee His father killed a bear with a knife Account of a panther Page 499-500 501 502-503 504 505-506 507 508 509-510 511 512 513 514 515 516 Guide to ICN · TAPE No. 14 SIDE No. 1 QUARTET at Saunook (Hill, Clark, Hill, Stevenson), North Carolina "He Paid the Debt" Begin 000 Break 046 HILL and STEVENSON, Saunook, North Carolina - guitar and mandolin · "Ashes" Begtn 049 Break 081 HILL _and ANDERSON, singing, CLARK and ALLEN, playing, Saunook, North Carolina "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" Begin 082 . Break 128 ANDERSON and HILL, singing, CLARK, playing, Saunook, North Carolina "Beautiful Brown Eyes" Begin 130 Break 160 BOYD STRICKLAND, Joe, North Carolina, June 1940 "Up on Old Pigeon'' BOYD and ALICE STRICKLAN~ · Joe, North Carolina "Those Lonely Tunes" (or Tombs) "Where the Soul Never Dies" BOYD STRICKLAND, Joe, North Carolina, June 1940 "Up on Old Pigeon" Tape ruris out Begin 162 Break 189 Begin 189 Break 222 Begin 223 Break 252 Begin 253 · Break 288 Begin 290 Break 363 Begin 364 . Pause 369 Begin 371 Break 373 Begin 373 Break 436 448 Joseph Hall Tapes - Guide to TAPE No. 14 - SIDE No. 2 HILL, STEVENSON and MOORES, Saunook, North Carolina 1939 "Farther Along" Begin 000 Break 095 EMERY ALLEN and RHONDA HENDERSON, Fines Creek, North Carolina, October 1939 "Companions Draw Nigh" Begin 098 Break 143 VIRGIL DIAL, Mt. Sterling CCC Camp, North Carolina, October. 1939 "Somebody Ta 11 and Handsome" BULL MOUNrAIN RAMBLERS, Del Rio, Tennessee, "Farther Along" ''What Would You Give in Exchange for Your Soul" Begin 145 Break 174 October 1939 Begin 176 Pause 214 Break 222 Begin 223 Break 232 HILL, COGDILL, OWU~, STEVENSON, Saunook, North Carolina "I Don't Want Your Greenback Dollar" WILLIAM BOULDER, CCC Company 1458 Talking HILL and STEVENSON, Saunook, North Carolina "Ashes" WILL PALMER, Cataloochee, North Carolina Bear hunt with Steve Woody Bear hunt with Turkey George Palmer Begin 233 Break 262 Begin 263 Break 277 Begin 278 Break 295 Begin 294 Break 337 Begin 338 Break 342 Begin 344 Break 361 ·~··,._· Joseph Hall Tapes - Guide to ICN TAPE No. 14, Side Nou 2 - cor,td Mrs. GEORGE PALMER, Gataloochee, North Carolina How to build a turkey pen Turkey hunt by Turkey George Palmer MARY ALICE PALMER, Cataloochee, North Carolina Talking BILL BARNES, Hartford, Tennessee His father killed a bear wi~h a knife Panther Tape runs out Begin 362 Break 380 Begin 381 Break 389 Begin 389 Break 396 Begin 397 Break 420 Begin 421 Break 448 448 ~-'~:~ ,- ~ , ~ ,, --~ ~;-_,· :_;i·0f~~;.~f7~F~~~:·:"~·:·:'~·:r~~.- :~TI.-~?''':" --.. 0) Jo~eP,h Hall Tapes Page 476 TAPE No. 14 SIDE marked "A" on reel. From Index Counter Number 000 to 005 is blank. Set Index Counter Number at 000 at beginning of recording. CLARK HILL, MEDFORD CLARK, JIE HILL, and HERBERT STEVENSON, Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina - singing with guitar "JESUS PAID THE DEBT" My blessed Lord who reigns in peace an' love on high Has gone to pick for us a mansion in th' sky He paid th' debt to set us free Sinner tell me will you meet me bye and bye. He paid th' debt for you an' me. (Bass voice carrying the words) Jesus paid th' debt on Calvary for all (All together) He paid th' debt to set us free Sinner tell me will you meet me bye and bye. Up there I'll meet my blessed loved ones in that home •. No more from Jesus tender loving I shall roam He paid th' debt to set us free Sinner tell me will you meet me bye and bye. He paid th' debt for you and me Jesus paid the debt on Calvary for all. He paid th' debt to set us free Sinner tell me will you meet me bye and bye. ~;r~· .£~ ~ ·-~?:: '"·}·, ·n:<·~· :oF~·~: ..~ ~rtf~J,"';'q~ ''·.·,, : ·ff :' "' Joseph Hall Oh come an' * th' Saviour while you may Oh come. an' walk with me in th' bright and heaveiy way He paid th' debt to set us free Sinner tell me will you meet me bye and bye. He paid th' debt for you and me Jesus paid th' deb~ on Calvary for all. He paid th' debt to set us free Sinner tell me will you meet me bye and bye. Folks that was, "Jesus Paid th' Debt," played an' sang by, Clark Hill, Ro- uh Medford Clark (Prompter) Medford Clark, Joe Hill an', Herb Robert Stevenson. From Saunook North Carolina. (Indistinct talking) 4) BREAK * 9 The singers got mixed up in their words. Joseph Hall Tapes Page 478 PETE HILL and HERBERT STEVENSON, Saunook, North Carolina - guitar and mandolin "ASHES11 (?) 7) (Instrumental) That w's "Ashes" played by Pete Hill an' Herbert Stevenson, f'm Saunook North Carolina. 6) BREAK 7) MILLARD HILL and TED ANDERSON, singing, MEDFORD CLARK and MELVIN ALIEN, playing, Sawtook, Haywood County, North Carolina "SWING 1.00 SWEET CHARI<Yl'" Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home. I looked over Jordan an' what did I see (Solo) Coming for to carry me home A big band of angels coming after me (Solo) Coming for to carry me home. Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home. If you get there before I do (Solo) - Coming for to carry me home Tell all my friends I'm coming too (Solo) Coming for to carry me home. 7) Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home. I'm sometimes up and sometimes I'm down Coming for to carry me home But still my hopes are heavenly bound Coming for to carry me home. Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home Swing low, sweet chariot Coming for to carry me home. (Solo) (Solo) That w's "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" sung by, Milla1·d Hill ari' Ted Anderson. 'N' played by, Medford Clark 'n', Melvin Allen from Saunook North carolina. BREAK :'f-<"')i?j1['~??~1"t:if~t~~'Rnt~~~~#T -''. Joseph Ha 11 Tapes TED ANDERSON and MILLARD HILL, singing, MEDFORD CLARK, playing guitar, Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina "BEAUTIFUL BRa.lN EYES II J) Willie my darling I love you Love you with all my heart Tomorrow we might have been married But likker has kept us apart. Beautiful beautiful brown eyes Beautiful beautiful brown eyes Beautiful beautiful brown eyes I'll never love blue eyes again. Onto th' barroom he staggered Fell down b'hind th' door Th' last words he ever uttered "I' 11 never get drunk any more." Beautiful beautiful brown eyes Beautiful beautiful brown eyes Beautiful beautiful brown eyes I' 11 ·never love blue eyes again. Joseph Hall Tapes .· Page 482 Seven long years I've been married Wish I was single again Woman never knows of her troubles Until she has married a man. Beautiful beautiful brown eyes Beautiful beautiful brown eyes Beautiful beautiful brown eyes I'll never love blue eyes again. That was "Brown Eyes," sung by Ted Anderson 'n 1 Millard Hill 'n' played by Medford Clark f'm Saunook North Carolina >) BREAK 7) ~) )) Joseph Hall Tapes BOYD STRICKLAND, Joe, Madison County, North carolina, June 1940 "UP ON BIG PIGEON" 'Twas up on old Pigeon up at th' Big Bend Perhaps you all heard of that rough bunch of men Their latest conduct it was a sight By takin' Mims White an' Scott Brown's life. I've o f t e n wondered how wimmen love men And this is what happened up at th' Big Bend Them loving their wimmen has led to it all Page Has brought all of their sorrows an' caused their downfall. So back to th' Big Bend Bown 'n' White did go Just rambling around as you all may know Not dreaming or thinking what fate might be But if you haven't heard it just listen to me. BREAK They went up th 1 mounting an' nearly around Both armed to their teeth with big pistols an• gun. They said they had came up to hear . th' news Scott Mims both asked them what h'd stole their shoes An' there at th' rest log, this trouble begun By beating an' shooting with large caliber guns 6) So Bob said to Frank "We may go to jail (Scratchy) But I've often heard it said that dead men tell tales" But little did they think that in the end That may be their death or lifetime in pen. Brown White had no ----- not even a gun They gave up their life their shoes an' their dog They carried them off quickly with little to say And then without sorrow they were soon laid away. So after they were buried fergotten an' gone Scott's widow would've married an' she would've lived on Put BREAK Mlxup in page numbering. NO Pages 485 and 486 . .. \ ~ ~:.r:·}{f:'t;?"~;~?;~',~~·t,;_';:~_: ,~·,_ ·; ,< · ; . BOYD and ALICE STRICKLAND, Joe, Madison County, North Carolina - singing with guitar "THOSE LONELY TUNES" I was strolling one day in a lonely graveyard And a voice from th' tomb seemed to say "I once lived as you live, walked and talked as you talk C:~ l!d But from earth I was soon .h1tuled away." Oh those tunes (Female) Oh those tunes (Male) Lonely tunnes Lonely tunes Seem to say in a old dear tone Oh how sweet Oh how sweet Is th' rest Is th' rest Their beautiful heavenly home. Every voice from th' tomb seemed to whisper an' say "Living man you must soon follow me" And I thought as I looked on those cold marble slabs What a dark lonely place that would be. Pag~ 488 Oh those tunes Oh those tunes Lonely tunes Lonely tunes Seem to say in a old dear tone Oh how sweet Oh how sweet Is th 1 rest Is th 1 rest Their beautiful heavenly home. Then I came to th 1 place where my mother was laid And in silence I stood by her tomb And her voice seemed to say in a old dear tone I can take you to my home. Oh those tunes Oh those tunes Lonely tunes Lonely tunes Seemed to say in a hollow tone Oh how sweet Oh how sweet Is their rest Is their rest Their beautiful heavenly home. :) BREAK D) Joseph Hall Tapes BOYD and ALICE STRICKLAND - contd \ ''WHERE THE SOUL NEVER DIES" To caanan's land I'm on my way Where th' soul never dies Th' darkest night will turn to day Where the soul never dies. Good friends there'll be no sad farewell There'll be no tear ~n eye f~i'-~(!. i·J 9! +- Where all isfilove ' An' the soul never dies. Jesus is blooming there for Where th' soul never dies An' ther.e I'll see eternity Where th' soul never dies. me Good friends there'll be no sad farewell ~I ~~ ~YI { [ There' 11 be no tear11 in eye Pt>-"' f'. t. -ci " '!'~· Where all is nlove · And th' soul never dies. Page 489 (Harmonizing) {Harmonizing) {Harmonizing) (Harmonizing) Tapes I'm on my way to that fair land Where th' soul never dies Where there will be no parting then An' th' soul never dies. Dear friends there'll be no sad farewell -- 1 There '11 be no tear in eye ~- 1: r _,. r ~fi!!. e'i ~ oy '~ Where a 11 is~ love And th' soul never dies. PAUSE Boyd Strickland 'n' Alice. ''Where th' Soul Never Dies." Uh, "Those Lonely Tunes" Sung by Boyd 'n' Alice Strickland Joe North Car'lina 52) BREAK ~ 3) Joseph Hall Tapes BOYD STRICKLAND, Joe, Madison County, North Carolina, June 1940 "UP ON BIG PIGEON" Twas up on old Pigeon up at th' Big Bend Perhaps you all heard of that rough bunch of men Their latest conduct it was a sight By takin' Mims White an' Scott Brown's life. I've o f t e n wondered how wimmen love men And this is what happened up at th' Big Bend (Men?) Them loving their wimmen that led to it all Has brought all their ~roubles an' caused their downfall. So back to th' Big Bend Brown 'n' White did go A ramblhtg around as you all may know Not dreaming or thinking what fate might be But if you haven't heard it just listen to me. 'Twas up on th' mounting not far away Buster an' Ona had went for t' pass time away An' there at th' rest log just sitting around Up came Mims White an' Ona's husband God bless. . • Joseph Hall Tapes Then Ona she ran off * Where Frank'n' Bob was at down th' hi 11 their moonshine still She went down to them in an awful fright Said "'fraid Scott an' Mims are gonna take Buster's life." So they worked on til they got that run out Said "we go up an see what their trouble's about." They went up that mounting an' nearly around Both armed to their teeth with big pistols an' gun. They said they had came up to hear th' news Scott Mims both asked them what h'd stole their shoes An' there at th' rest log this trouble begun By beating an' shooting with large caliber guns. So Bob said to Frank "we may go to jail But I've often heard it said that dead men tell tales" But little did they think that in the end That might be their death or life in th' pen. Brown White had no ----- not even a gun {spcks?) They gave Brown McGaha their shoes an' their dog. They carried them off quickly with little to say And then without sorrow they were soon laid away. * - Bob, or Mark, or Brown, or Varn Joseph Hall Page 493 So after they were buried fergotten an' gone Scott's widow wou~'ve married an' she would've lived on. Put Frank McGaha in Waynesville jail Told 'Tective O'Malley this awful tale. J. G. O'Malley he tramped all around Getting evidence was all around Put th' boys in th' big house th' rest of their life. Bowed down in transgression no hope to reprieve Short BREAK If they were back to th' Big Bend so diff'rent they would be Their drinking an' wild hogging would come to an end Perhaps they would make better wimmen than men. 12) BREAK In transgression no hope to reprieve If they were back to th' Big Bend how diff'rent they would be Their drinking an' wild hogging would come to an end. Perhaps they would make better wimmen than men. BREAK This song is composed by Boyd Strickland. Of Joe North Carolina. Make that Hoot Owl Hollow. BREAK , ·. , >-~-~~f;7f}::s~=.~~~~i,~ -~:~~-.L. · Jeis~ ph'J: na 11 Page 494 BOYD STRICKLAND - contd 1) Go ahead. (Hall) It 's up on old Pigeon up at th' Big Bend Perhaps you all heard of that rough bunch of men Their latest conduct it was a sight By takin' Mims White an' Scott Brown's life. I've o f t e n wondered how wimmen love men And this is what happened up at th' Big Bend Them loving their wimmen that led to it all Has caused all those troubles an' caused their downfall. So back to th' Big Bend Brown 'n' White did go Rambling around as you all may know Not dreaming or thinking what fate might be But if you haven't heard it just listen to me. Just up on th' mounting not far away Buster an' Ona had went to pass time away An' there at th' rest log just sitting around Up came Mims White an' Ona's husband God bless. Then Ona she ran off ~· ' down th' hill Where Frank 'n' Bob was at their moonshine sti 11 She went down to them in an' awful fright Said "I 'fraid Scott an' Mims gonna take Buster's life." .. ·'::r ·;-.:§ 1~!:':;·yr1Y~·xy{·:~:~. Joseph Hall Tapes Page So they worked on til they got that run out Said "we go up an' see what their trouble's about." They went up that mounting an' almost around · Both armed to their teeth with big pistols an' gun. They said they had came up to hear th' news Scott Mims both asked them what stole their shoes An' there at th' rest log this trouble begun By beating an' shooting with large caliber guns. So Mark said to Frank "we may go to jail But I've often heard it said that dead men tell tales." But little did they think that in the end That might be their death or life in th' pen. Brown White had no not even a gun (socks? They gave up their life, their shoes an' their souls. They carried them off quickly with little to say And then without sorrow they were soon laid away. So after they were buried fergotten an' gone Scott's widow would've married an' she would've lived on Put Frank McGaha in Waynesville jail Told Detective O'Malley this awful tale • . ' .. _ ~~-, ~.,. t- Jos~ph Hall Tapes So 'tective O'Malley he tramped all around Getting evidence where was all around Put th' boys in th' big house th' rest of their life. Bowed down in transgression no hope to reprieve th' If they were back to/Big Bend so diff'rent they would be Their drinking an' wild hogging would come to an end Perhaps they would make better wimmen than men. END Tape runs out at 389 NOIE: On this side the transcriber forgot to reset the Index Counter Number to 000 at the beginning of the recording. So if the ICN is set at 000 at the beginning of the recording, the marginal ICN will be about 9 less. Joseph TAPE No. 14 - SIDE 2: From Index Counter Number 000 to 008 is blank. MILLARD HILL (bass), HERBERT STEVENSON (alto), BILL MOORE (.soprano) and HOWARD MOORE (tenor), Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina, October 1939 - singing with guitar "FARTHER ALONG" Tempted and tried we're oft made to wonder Why it should be thus all th' day long While there are others living about us Never molested though in th' wrong. Farther along we'll know all about it. Farther along we'll understand why. Cheer up my brother, live in th' sunshine. We'll understand it all bye and bye. When * an' taken our lo,ed ones It leaves our home so lonely an' drear Then do we wonder why others prosper Living so wicked year after year. Farther along we'll know all about it. Farther along we'll understand why. Cheer up my brother live in th' sunshine. We' 11 understand it all bye and bye. * - They got mixed up Faithful will live near our loving Master Just few more days to labor an' wait Toils are soon over we'll meet each other As we see through th' beautiful gate. Farther a long we 1 11 know a 11 about it. Farther along we'll understand why. Cheer up my brother live in th' sunshine. We'll understand it all bye an' bye. When we see Jesus coming in glory When He comes from His home in th' sky Then we shall meet Him in that fair mansion We '11 understand it;_ BREAK 498 EMERY ALLEN and RONDA HENDERSON, Fines Creek, Haywood County, North Carolina, October 1939 - singing with guitar "COMPANIONS DRAW NIGH" Companions draw nigh they say I must die Early th' summons has come from on high. Th' way is so dark an' yet I must go Oh such sorrow you never may know. Only a prayer, only a tear Only if sister an' mother were here Only a song to comfort an' cheer Only a word from th' book so dear. And can you not bow an' pray with me now Sadly confessing I never learned how True comfort from God who only can save Leading in triumph to death an' th' grave. Only a prayer, only a tear Only if sister an' mother were here Only a song to comfort an' cheer Only a word from th' book so dear. (Static scratch) Joseph HaU Tapes {;;-' And can you not sing a song of His love How He came down from the mansions above To bleed and to die on Calvary's tree Bringing salvation to sinners like me. Only a prayer, only a tear Only if sister an' mother were here Only a song to comfort an' cheer Only a word from that book so dear. BREAK Page 501 • co: ·~- •• VIRGIAL DIAL, LaFollette, Tennessee, at Mt. Sterling CCC Camp, October 1939 - singing with suitar (Talking - indistinguishable) "SOMEBODY TALL AND HANDSOME" Guitar too loud to und.ers tand the words BREAK BULL MOUNTAIN RAMBLERS, Rufus Hill (mandolin), Jarrett Payne (guitar), Del Rio, Cocke County, Tennessee, October 1939 "FARTHER ALONG" Tempted an' tried we're oft made to wonder Why it should be thus all th' day long While there are others living about us Never molested though in th' wrong. Farther along we'll know more about it. Farther along we'll understand why. Cheer up my brother live in th' sunshine. We'll understand it all bye and bye. When Death has come an' taken our loved ones Leaves our homes so lonely an' drear Then do we wonder why others prosper Living so wicked year after year. Farther along we'll know more about it. Farther along we'll understand why. Cheer up my brother live in th' sunshine We 1 11 understand it all bye and bye. Faithful will live near our loving Master {?} A few more days to labor an' wait Toils are over, living an' loving As we may see through that beautiful gate. Farther along we'll know more about it. Farther along we'll understand why Cheer up my brother live in th' sunshine We'll understand it all bye and bye. PAUSE This was th' Bull Mountain Ramblers, an' th' number w's, religious number w's "Farther Along." Rufus Hill, with th' with th' mandolin an', Jarrett Payne with th' guitar. Th' Bull Mountain Ramblers f'm Del Rio Tennessee. BREAK . • Same ''WHAT WOUlD YOU GIVE IN EXCHANGE FOR YOUR SOUL" (Fragment) Brothers are far f'm th' Saviour today Drifting is all for death and decay Oh if today God called you away What would you give in exchange for your soul. BREAK CLARK HILL, ORVILLE COGDILL, JOHN OWNE, HERBERT STEVERSON, Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina - singing wity guitar "I DON"T WANr YOUR GREENBACK DOLLAR" I don't want your greenback dollar. I don't want your watch or chain All I want is your love darling Won't you take me back again. Someone said I should not marry Papa said it'd never do If you ever want to marry I will run away with you. (Melody) I don't want your greenback dollar. I don't want your watch an' chain. All I want is be together You can have your dirty ring. I don't want your greenback dollar. I don't want your watch an' chain. All I want is your love darling Won't you take me back again. .Joseph -Hall Tapes . Page 506 . ' Every night (here the singing stops) (!Melody - instrumental) That was "Greenback Dollar" played an' sung by C. Hill, 9t'ville Cogdill, .John Owens an' Herbert Stevenson of Saunook North Carolina. (Talking - indistinguishable) BREAK WILLIAM BOULDER, CCC Company ~58 William Boulder speaking. We left Fourteen Fifty-eight fer, Cataloochee Four Fifteen. Play, game of baseball. We went up the mountain seventeen miles 'n' turned down 'n' went through th', Indian Reservation. Through th', Waynesville. Then we hit th' mountain. Twenty miles f'm Waynesville. W's th' steepest mountain I 'sever on. We got overt', Four Fifteen, about 9:30. An' we stayed all night there an' we eat breakfast an' about, ten o'clock we went out, t' practice for baseball game that.day. We got through 'n', we eat dinner. Started back about, 12:00 o'clock. We come back through in, Newport. We stopped in Newport about, fifteen minutes. An' we come on aroun-d, through th- 1 , Webbs Creek wasn't it? An'. Brought an' okinola in, w'n we got back here it w's about, 5:00 o'clock in th' evenin'. We had a swe ·ll time. BREAK PETE HILL and HERBERT STEVENSON, Saunook, Haywood County, North Carolina - guitar and mandolin "ASHES" (Playing) BREAK NOIE: There is no identification of this by Dr. Hall, but ;lt is the same as that on Page 478. 67) Joseph Hall Tapes Page 509 WILL PALMER, Cataloochee, Haywood County, North Carolina Well about nineteen years ago me 'n', William Stafford 'n'. Penny Seay took a notion we'd go out an' look for some bear signs. We located th' big bear 1 n 1 , found he where hew's a usin'. An' 1 cided we'd come back an' git some, dogs an' men an' go ketch 'im. So we started early next mornin'. With our dogs, gun, men. An'. Me 'n', Mr. Steve Woody, went on the stand. An' they jumped th' bear 'n' th' bear come, to the ~tand where we 's at. An' I gave 'im, two good shots. An' th' bear run off down under th' mountain a little 'n'. Squatted down by a big balsam. Old Uncle Steve Woody says "I'll go round down this way below 'im, an' you go down in on 1 im." So I run, went down right in on 'im 'n'. Hit 1 im another shot. An'. Th 1 bear then just rolled right down on Uncle Steve Woody an', w's 'bout to ketch 'im. Uncle Steve hollered "Oh Lord, shoot Will shoot." (Laughing) An'. Purty soon then they 1s one of th' little dogs, hemmed th' bear 'n', turned 'im away from Uncle Steve Woody. 'N' turned th' bear right off up towards me come walkin' off up th' hill. 'N' I, fe 11 to shoot in 1 1 im. I shot 1 im ten times then be fore I killed 'im. An'. When he went down on his face dead, Mr. Woody come up to me an' said "gimrne that gun I want t 1 blow his brains out." (Laughing) I gave 1 im the gun an' he s~ped up 'n', put th 1 gun right agin' his head 'n' fired. Says "I'll kill you." (Laughing) Well they 's about, dozen men in th' bunch. We, carried th' bear in, took 'im to th' scale an' weighed 1 im he weighed, four hundred an' seventy-five pounds. An-d. We brought 1 im back then dressed 'im an' divided 'im up. I believe that's about all I know about that. BREAK Well when we got the bear killed, we wanted t' git our men all together, we, fired our guns for signals, t' gather 'em up. 'N'. William Stafford said "Old Uncle Steve Woody wouldn't be any happier when he entered the gates of heaven." ) BREAK ) 17) WILL PAU1ER contd Well. Turkey George Palmer was noted as a great hunter. Bear hunter. Killed lots of bear. fo. Me an' him we decided t I go to his trap one day. An' it got a big bear in th' trap an' he'd come off down to the open woods. (Pause) He. (Pause) So we w's goin' to th' trap an 1 we, went t' jump across a little swampy 4ree~ 'n' jumped right into the old bear's face. Th' bear was, hung on the laurel, by th' grabs. An'. George raised up with his Winchester an' fired 'n' he never teched a hair on that bear. I said "George steady youself agin' a saplin' there an' kill 'im." So George he steadied hisself agin' a saplin' 'n' cut down an' just busted that bear's head open. (Pause) So we dress- we dressed th' bear an' carried 'im in home. BREAK Mrs. GEORGE PALMER, Cataloochee, Haywood County, North carolina ) How to build a turkey pen. You just build a, square pen out of, ten foot fence rails. An'. Wh~n you git th' wall built you, you build it up about, oh 'bout three feet high. 'N' then you cover th' th' pen over with fence rails laid close together all over it. 'N' then you go out back a distance from th' pen, start a trench. Shaller at first. And th' deeper you go, get under the rail, of th' pen why it's, deep so enough for a turkey t' walk under th' bottom rail. But turn some slopes out up f'm th' middle ) of th' pen. An'. Turkey walks through there 'n' they get inside this pen, they raise up an' see where they're at they get so excited that they, don't notice th' hole down there t', go out back, outside. BREAK Mrs. GEORGE PAlMER - ) One day Turkey George Palmer an' another man went up on th' mountain. ) Cattle hunt in' really '\J 1 s what they 's out fer but they, followed some turkeys. An' they shot one through th' brush an' he just cut its throat. It wen-, fell an' 'n' went fal- rollin' 'n' tumblin' flouncin' down the mountain. He told that feller he 's with 'im t' "ketch it John" 'n' he took after it. Had a main race down there til the, turkey flopped up agin' a big log 'n' couldn't get over it 'n' there they caught it. BREAK MARY ALICE PALMER, Cataloochee, Haywood County, North Carolina - reading a prepared statement evidently 0) I live on a farm in Cataloochee. My grandfather · Jesse Pa~mer was among the first to come to this place an' start a settlement. My father George Palmer found this place in the wilderness so he decided to build a house and clear some land. Then he married and raised a large family. He was a great bear hunter and turkey hunter. He was reared on Cataloochee, an' lived here all of his life. He used to own a lot of land here. Then the government bought it for a park. So it is now in the Great Mountains National Park. ) BREAK .. -c., . ' ?;Jf'~jf7,'2'Tj' Joseph Hall Tapes · ....... BILL BARNES, Hartford, Cocke County, Tennessee. ) My father, was driving some cattle. On what is known as the Cove Creek Mountain. An' he come up to a party, had been a fightin' a bear. Th' dogs. An' it had eaten up their dogs. Ina laurel bed. He asked th' party for a gun. To go around an' kill that bear an' there wasn't a man had a load of powder, or any loaded gun In I they couldn't git in. (Some-one sneezing at the mike.) Anything. To kill it with. An' it 's just eatin' their dogs up. He went down, to get 'im a knife. An' he went down into that laurel where it w's. It had th' dogs down. An' he run up. An' stobbed his knife, into it. An' cut a big long gash. Come to th' holler, of th' bear. An' th' bear wheeled on 'im. An' he said he heered like could feel, 'im a bitin' 'im nearly. He c'd hear it poppin 1 his teeth. An' th 1 dogs, they come an 1 grabbed it agin' you know before it c'd, got hold of him, an' it wheeled back on the dogs. An' as it wheeled back on the dogs, he, took a run a go, an' run his arm into tha~ hole he'd cut into it. An' run it right up about its heart an' give a rake or two. An' that bear, shrunk down an' bawled he said like a calf. ) B~~ (Brief) ) BILL BARNES contd Me an' a party were on Big Creek. A fishin'. Been out, campin' out y 1 know in th' woods. An' we heard something a hollerin 1 • Wel-l. Several of us, in th' bunch. An older man said 'twas a panther. A hollerin 1 • An' it hollered several times whatever it was. Traveled. And. So. Louder yon d'rectly. Later on. I'd been up in th' field an', worked 1n 1 , me 'n', two of my brothers. Were comin' down, a branch. Goin' towards th' house, an' I saw some 1 in' step in th' branch. Looked to be, four or some'in' five foot long way long/' n 1 • An 1 my brother had a gun. Smaller brother w's in th' middle between us. I asked my brother t' gimme th' gun. An' he thought I 's just a, devilin' this boy. An' he didn't hand me th' gun. If he gimme th' gun I coulda killed, whatever it was. An' all at once, I reckon it discovered me, an' it jumped. "Peared t' me it. went anyway, fifteen or twenty feet th' first leap. An' he I just heard it hit th' ground a time or two. Well I had some good dogs, down at th 1 house 'n' I run down 'n' got my dogs END Tape runs out at 395

This 431-page manuscript is titled “Joe Hall tapes” and covers a series of interviews made by Joseph Sargent Hall (1906-1992) from 1939 to 1941. The history was collected as part of the Cataloochee History Project that collected photographs, stories, and oral histories about families who lived in the Cataloochee Valley. Today’s Cataloochee Valley is within the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. While, in general, the Great Smoky Mountains region was sparsely populated, the Cataloochee Valley remained an exception. By 1900, the population of Cataloochee had grown to 1,000 residents living in hundreds of log and frame homes.

• Creator
  • Hall, Joseph S. (Joseph Sargent), 1906-1992
• Contributor
  • Clark, Medfor
  • Cathey, Mark, 1871-1944
  • Case, Frank
  • Carver, Aden
  • Caldwell, Mack
  • Bumgarner, Willis
  • Bumgarner, Dexter
  • Brown, Bill, Mrs.
  • Boulder, William
  • Bell, Ray
  • Bell, Gleason
  • Barnes, Bill
  • Anderson, Ted
  • Anderson, Ken
  • Allen, Melvin
  • Allen, Emery
• Format
  • Transcripts
  • Interviews
• Type
  • Text
• Date
  • Date original: 1939; 1940; 1941
  • Date digitized: 2015-09-22
• Extent
  • Dimension: 11' x 8.5"
  • Pages: 431 pages
• Subject - Topic
  • Appalachian Region, Southern -- Social life and customs
  • Appalachians (People)
  • Cataloochee (N.C.) -- History
  • Families -- North Carolina -- Haywood County
  • Mountain life -- Great Smoky Mountains (N.C. and Tenn.)
  • Musicians
  • Storytelling
• Location
  • Haywood County (N.C.)
• Source institution
  • Western Carolina University
• Source Collection
  • Cataloochee History Project
• Identifier
  • GSMNP_Cata-Hall_1939
• Repository
  • Great Smoky Mountains National Park